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Recent Article Perpetuates Stereotypes of Plus Size Consumer

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The plus size consumer remains the most misunderstood demographic in America. The plus perspective is continuously overlooked and under served. The recent L.A. Times article ” The plus-size mystery in women’s fashion” instead of connecting to the plus size consumer and designers who design for us thus uncovering the answers to what they feel is the mystery, they list most if not all of the negative stereotypes that plague the plus size consumer as it relates to fashion in this country. It comes from a perspective of certainty rather a quest to find out what plagues the plus size fashion community. It is hard to point out parts of the article that were more egregious than others, so I will quote a few and respond to them here.

  1. The author states “…a key finding of a 2009 report by Mintel, an international consumer market research firm, found that plus-size shoppers, especially younger women, want fashions that match those sold in smaller sizes.But that’s a big request with a small chance of success, experts say. The proportions, economics and aesthetics of plus-size fashion virtually guarantee that fashion — fashion of the trendsetting, desire-stoking, magazine-filling kind — will always favor the thin.” A small chance of success, really?? If consumer demand is there, which is what was found in the Mintel report and theoretically the basis that drives a retailer to carry a product, then why is it that it won’t be successful? Why is it too much to ask to have accessible options that reflect runway trends seen internationally? The seem to feel that high fashion as a whole is a closed runway show that no one sees or hears about unless invited to attend. Because they don’t pay attention to us doesn’t mean we are oblivious to them.
  2. Quoting Eddie Bledsoe, associate professor of fashion design and costume history at the Otis College of Art and Design.“The stretched-out torso, defined waist and narrower hips … make the clothes look and hang better,” he said. Further, a lean body with subdued curves allows the flat planes of most clothing to drape without interruption.”That’s fashion. That’s high fashion,” Bledsoe said. “It’s for the social elite, the aristocracy. It’s not for the average person. That’s the difference between high fashion and consumer or mass fashion.” He implies here that fashionable clothing simply does not look or hang well on a woman with curves. To relegate high fashion to the social elite further perpetuates the stereotype that the plus size consumer is not affluent, no where near high society and not worthy to be considered when it comes to high fashion, making it a class issue more than a fashion choice. This speaks directly to what Elisa DeCarlo of ” The Mad Fashionista” mentioned in our conversation a few months ago. As to it not being for the average person, when 65% of the population is considered plus size in this country, the plus size becomes the average, worthy of consideration.
  3. Quoting Marshal Cohen, chief analyst for the NPD Group, a retail and consumer behavior research firm based in Port Washington, N.Y “… plus-size women say they want to buy stylish plus-size clothes, they aren’t big spenders. That’s understandable because after years of being ignored or offered uninteresting or ill-fitting clothes, they’ve lost interest in fashion. Further, the biggest group of plus-size shoppers is older than 55, and many are low-income.” According to statics in this article the plus size consumer spent 107 billion dollars last year to somewhere..Where did that money go? We gave it to the designer or retailer that spoke to us. As a plus size consumer, we are used to spending more for quality because it is so rare to see it done and done well, we flock to that designer and will become loyal to those that are loyal to us. To say we no longer have interest in fashion is not only amazingly disrespectful but highly offensive. We don’t look to “high fashion” designers to cater to us any longer because we are tired of begging to be heard.
  4. Quoting the author of the article “…Not every retailer has the floor space, expertise or capital to invest in a specialty business that returns 17% of sales. To appropriately serve larger and plus-size customers, mainstream retailers need to invest in larger mannequins, training for sales staff and often, a skilled alterations department, features that have made specialists such as Lane Bryant successful. But extra service isn’t likely at the kinds of stores that sell most plus-size clothing, discounters such as Wal-Mart and Kmart..” I worked in retail for a number of years and I can attest to their being little to no training in regards to how to sell to any particular demographic, plus or not. You are typically trained to get the clothes for the customer based on what they are looking for, offer suggestions, up sell accessories and keep it moving to the next customer. It could be different now but I remember the retail world being too fast paced to offer a full boutique experience that is mentioned in this statement. Lane Bryant doesn’t have an alterations department which would have been known if the author bothered to speak to someone at Lane Bryant or speak to any plus size retailer for that matter. I personally have never looked to Wal-Mart or Kmart for designer fashions specifically or felt that they were my only choice.

The article is not completely one sided, it does highlight the strides that have been made to improve the plus/fashion connection like Saks carrying plus sizes from couture lines and the creation of Full Figured Fashion Week(end) in LA created and produced by Gwen DeVoe. The great strides by Gwen and others are regulated to a few lines in this article, when they are worthy of so much more. When a credible news source like the L.A. Times only prints opinions from those that are not experts in the area of plus design, quote them and suggest that what they state is an insightful view of the plus size fashion industry with no counter opinion, does a huge disservice to their audience. I don’t know that they didn’t solicit comments from any notables in the plus industry like the Dana Buchman’s, Tadashi’s, Monif C.’s and Lane Bryant’s of the world. I do know that they were not quoted in the piece.

One plus size model during a runway show in Paris, a show void of a collection of pieces for the fuller figure is not a stride in the right direction but merely a ploy to give the appearance of acceptance. Similar to saying ” I have friends who are black” but would never consider inviting an black people over for dinner. This article affirms my belief that we no longer need to beg any retailer to speak to us. Our power is in our fashionable wallets. We need to join collectively and stop patronizing retailers and designers that continuously devalue our dollar on any level. We need to realize the power that we have. Designers make a choice not to design for us and retailers make the choice to not carry what we need. They need to know that we have choices too.

Features Editor, Cassandra Jones-McBryde -- Daily Venus Diva.

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Comments

  1. Ana Paula says:

    Hi Everybody,

    I could not agree more. It’s so offensive of the designers to believe we don’t have strong power of buying. I have being working and living in China doing Private label and sourcing for several “companies” and none of them extended their sizes or even consider a line for PLUS SIZE. I could never shop in Asia and had to travel abroad to shop and in most cases hardly find any sexy looks at our sizes. That’s why I have started my won company a year ago and we are doing ONLY PLUS SIZES.

    We have to unite and show to the retails companies we amazing shoppers and we want quality and fashion at the same time.
    Thanks Cassandra for this amazing article.

  2. StyleGroupie says:

    Hey Cassandra,

    Great article. It answered a lot of questions behind the lack of plus sized clothing in many stores. One of the questions you asked is – why are mainstream fashionable clothes not being made in plus sizes? We want to change this situation using web 2.0 – crowd-sourcing /social site!

    We are rolling out our website – http://www.stylegroupie.com to enable trendy fashion to be available in plus sizes. We are looking for feedback and help from experts in the field on our webpage.

    Thanks,
    StyleGroupie

  3. Limarie says:

    Very POWERFUL article here! As I was reading this so much came to my mind to debate what other’s were quoting….such as the aristocracy thing…I love all my sisters of all sizes but to say that that the thinner ones are worthy of high fashion is ridiculous…there used to be a time when the curvier woman was considered the wealthier or “aristocracy” because they had more rich foods avail to eat..LOL…fashion to celebrate all people because it is what we wear to live our lives in! Anyway to avoid going off in to another topic I just wanted to say that this article sums everything up well because we have to keep in mind that people’s opinions ESPECIALLY those who are trying to speak for the plus sized consumer need to be educated and well informed and not just make assumptions….the proof is in the pudding and like you said that is our wallets BUT as soon as we get more styles avail to the fuller figured woman from ALL socioeconomic backgrounds that is when I believe we will see a diff in the numbers Peace & Love -

  4. janika3689 says:

    people make me so mad, why do they have such small brains?

  5. Diana says:

    I think we’re in the middle of a cultural rethink right now, and because of that, people are clinging to those old ideas about who buys what clothing just because they know those ideas are about to be lost. We know that these assumptions, that plus women have “given up” are not remotely true. People who have profited from those assumptions, however, are starting to lose those profits, and as they follow the money trail slowly and surely they will end up re-evaluating the plus-size market.

  6. Marisa says:

    Wow that LA article was a straight up mess Lane Bryant has alteration?Lol
    Also sales people need specific training for plus size shoppers like being a fuller
    Figure is someone is equal to an IT department, ignorance and arrogance is what we keep
    Fighting against, the major fashion industry decided a long time ago that bodies
    The size of coat hangers was the standard and damn anybody else that doesn’t fit

  7. I agree Marisa, the LA Times article was way off base. That’s why sites like ours and other plus size publications are so important. We need plus size women reporting on plus size women and trends because everyone else doesn’t have a clue.

  8. Olga Ramos Olga says:

    Gee, and they really don’t have a clue.
    Where would they be without us?
    LOL.

  9. Cassy says:

    @Limarie- Thanks so much for your feedback. It is so hard to read these type of posts and not be angry and want to lash out. It just reinforces our commitment to the movement and the relevance of our voice. We cant get so angry that we lose sight of our mission and purpose

    @anna-I am glad that you enjoyed it! what is the name of your company? I would love to hear about it!! Thank you for bringing more fashion options to the conversation

    @Janika- I hope we can all translate that anger into action!

    @Marissa-your right! If the opinons in this article is an indication of what the fashion industry feels(and I have a feeling it is) we have a lot of work to do.

    @Style Groupe- Love what you are doing!! We need more information sources like yours..

  10. Cassy says:

    @Diana- you are right about the cultural shift now to include the plus size demographic, as with anything it is about the money. If it makes sense then they will look at us differently. With that we will have a rush of people who look at us as dollar signs, creating fashions that speak at us but not really to us.. That will be another fight all together.. Love your site! Thank you for doing what you do..

  11. Diana says:

    @Cassy> Thanks so much. And I’m glad the both of us are out there, saying something about the “at vs. to” phenom in the apparel industry.

  12. Alison Yarborough says:

    Enough already…high fashion, haute couture, caters to the rich ; most of whom haven’t had a decent meal in years. You can point out exceptions, but the fact remains that most of us cannot afford anything that comes from any of the fashion houses in Europe. Stop placing blame and perpetuating this attitude that everyone is against us…the real high fashion industry doesn’t design for the “average.” It is so much easier to find fault and portray people who are interviewed as ill-informed, without really paying attention to what is being said. Fashion design is not the Fashion Industry, just like the Culinary Arts have little relevance to what most of us, the average, like to eat.

  13. Cassandra Jones-McBryde says:

    Thanks for your response Alison! My issue is that it is now time that the “real fashion industry” as you say begin to speak to the Fuller Figure. It is hard to imagine that majority of this country no matter the size can afford to spend $2000 on one dress or outfit, but somehow it is happening. I firmly believe that the wealthy in this country are as diverse in size as others, the majority of high fashion designers are not speaking to them either.

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